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  60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

  my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

  my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

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  Hecce; How are you?
  I should have been more detailed, I was trying to be brief. I was referring to the pre qualifying questions that a person must go over before baptism. They're found in the back of the Organization book, New book now I think There were about 124 I believe. 3 elders reviewed them with you, then meet together to see if you qualified for baptism. I went over them a lot with people.
  Yes, I think they always had the two at baptism they weren't a problem. Look at the information again and the referral to JW FACTS. Need more information let me know.
  
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  60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

  my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

  my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

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  I liked you story. It is the same time period as when I was baptize Aug. 1955. A small assembly in southern California held at Ganesha Park down by Pomona Calif. I still have the lapel badge. You didn't have to answer any questions or tell any one, it was just between you and God.
  Let me till you a little bit about my 50+ yrs. it hard to do in a few paragraphs so I'll just high light a few things

  We(mother, sister and I)moved from the Midwest(Indian Territory) To a small town in central Calif. (It was only about 12 miles out side of town that James Dean was killed on his way up to the Monterey Peninsula we went out a week or so later to look around there was nothing to see) This is where we came into contact with Witnesses 1953. A guy (jw) moved in to town and we became the best of friends we went to high school together and all the large assemblies in Los Angles and the small circuit assemblies around central Calif. he was the best man at my wedding and I was his. He was killed in the early 70's .I Also went to a lot of R&B dances at the boardwalk in Pismo beach.
  There was no work in that area so after high school we moved up to the San Francisco bay area
  This was a great place to grow up and a great time. It was the 50's Rock& Roll, witness party ever week end ,the beach at Santa Cruz. My friend from high school came up and spent a lot of tine there too. This place had it all. I also hung around with some great guys we all were witness and knew what the limits were. No one ever told us what we could or couldn't do. I was the WT conductor for awhile I told them I thought I was to young. I also went around to the congregations in the area giving talks but sometimes we also went up to North Beach in San Francisco to look around.
  Went to New York for the big convention in 58 The next year(I got to tell you this) I met the best girl she wasn't a witness I didn't care no one has ever told me what to do even in prison. I went with her for a year and got her to marry me.She surprised me and got baptize so we were married in the hall.
  
  Two years later they came and got me and put me prison. My wife moved down to Tucson to be close. She was only about 18 at the time I was able to sell some land to help her while she was there They had visting ever Sunday and she was always there. Sometime we were the only ones. Went to the Rose Bowl in 63 had a good reunion with the guys from prison.
  I was living in northern Calif. when we went though the 1975 thing. Had two sons by then and I stopped going for a while because of 75 and some odd articles in the magazines they retracted them a little so I want back.
  A few years later we (wife and I) went back to the Midwest(Indian Territory) to see if we could help a small cong. and to see if I could talk to the Indian people. we had a lot of success I'm now sorry to say.

  Went to Utah was there for some time. It was fun talking to the Mormons. While I was there I went to Moab for a quick build hall a bad experience it was the worst work I have ever seen I don't tell anyone I worked on that hall. I did do some work on Robert Redford's Sundance Ski Resort and on his house It was while he was preparing for the movie Horse Whisper. It was while we were there that my wife got very sick and still is. We had to leave for her heath we moved to Las Vegas that's when I began to take a hard look at this religion There had been times in the past when things just didn't feel right I remember at an assembly in ok.city I just got up and left I couldn't listen to it any more or there would be times during the WT study when I would have to go out side for awhile. I now began to see things that had been there all along. I gave up my elder position and quite no more meeting or service. The last meeting I went to I ask a couple elders to go in the back I talked to them and left. A short time later they changed all the cong. around moving every one to a different hall. I may have got lost in the mix We left Las Vegas. a few years later. My wife and I have moved to Arizona. I was a little worried how my wife was going to take all of this. but like I said I married a great girl we're doing OK.
  
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  JW charged regarding child pornography

  by Listener in

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  http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article39058014.html#1.

  church shouldn't have divulged child-porn suspect's alleged confession, attorney says.

  elders in the jehovah’s witnesses church violated the confidentiality of steven lindhorst of paso robles when they told police about an alleged confession he made regarding child pornography, according to a defense motion.. .

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  Anytime I see the word or name Paso Robles it gets my attention I spent a lot of time in that part of California. I knew Steve when he lived in Sacramento early 90's I think. Last I heard of him he had moved to Atascadero which is about 10 or 11 miles south of Paso. He was a elder there I believe, maybe at some point even the P.O. I didn't know he had moved to Paso Robles or when.
  Steve was a (life of the party, center of attention, kind of guy) when you met him it was hard not to like him.
  When I saw his picture I didn't recognize him, it had been a long time, but the name rang a bell I ask my wife and she though it was him. I called a person ( jw) that knew him well. He said that was the name, he looked at the news story and said that was the same person. He then got mad at me, thought I was making fun or going to say something about Steve or the Organ. and hung up on me.
  
  
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

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  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  I was in Oklahoma at the time. The thinking among the elders in that area was that Ray was involved in trying to introduce new or different thoughts about the heavenly class, and was doing it by translating it into Spanish literature.
  I knew little about Ray only heard a few of his talk, it meant little to me.
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  Defend Jehovah's Witnesses.. False claim from opposers of JW's--Creative Day..

  by James Mixon in

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  "the creative day" how long was each day?

  defend.

  maybe this was posted before but i found this site.. search the above site.

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  It was all explained in the book 'new heavens and new earth". The evening and morning were figurative in that, at the start of the day, what it was to accomplish was unclear but at the end of the day it was clear and bright as the morning sun. At the time it made sense to me. I'm not sure if they've stepped back from the idea or not I know they haven't mention for some time.
  
  
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  Another JW Literature Trolly Experience

  by Athanasius in

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  this morning i stopped at dollar general to get a cheap container for waste paper.

  it was 11:30 am and there were two jw literature trolleys parked near the store and manned by three jws, on old man in a rolling chair, a 30 something man, and 30 something woman.

  as i walked by them i glanced at the their literature rack and proceeded into the store.. i was in the store for 20 minutes and made my purchase.

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  I have yet to see a JW Literature Trolley. Maybe one day. I did talk to a friend last week that said his cong. was using them.
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  1958 Convention Program. 8 days from 9am till 9pm. Anyone attend?

  by StopTheTears in

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  how in the world did they justify this torture?

  imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.

  for 8 days.

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  We were living in northern Calif. in 1958 and went to that assemble as did every one we knew. It was and remains one of the highlights of my life as a witness. As we drove back and got closer to the east coast the roads were covered with witnesses all the parks, roadside rest areas people waving, it was like a big family reunion. We got there a few day early so we went up to see the farm. When we got back and entered New York they had people on the road to help you find your way. All my friends from the bay area was there we had a time at Time Squire in the evenings. Met a nice girl from Florida spent most of the assemble with her. The main stadium was to full so we spend most of our time at the Polo grounds. In the big blowup pictures of the assemble I can see a friend and I sitting there during the main talk.

  After the assemble we took a tour of the factory. Just had a great time I was convince this was the truth and this was God's organ.

  I also remember the 63 Rose Bowl I had just got out of prison (Tucson federal) a few months earlier and we were planning a big reunion(the jws I was in prison with) .Had a good time, I still thought it was God's organ. It took me along time to leave.
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  Fleecing the Flock

  by Coded Logic in

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  at the last assembly i attended in 2005 the cost was $11,000 per day in yuba city (just over two hours away from our circuit).

  this always seemed a bit high for a facility that was built on donated land and whose construction loan had been paid off for 20 years.. i just looked up the cost to rent the redding civic center, which is just as nice if not nicer and a whole lot closer for our circuit, and it only costs $2,500 a day plus $250 for consumables (parking included).

  if it would save the brother's and sister's $8,250 a day and they could have the assembly locally why wouldn't they do it?.

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  Yuba City Assemble Hall;
  I believe in the beginning someone donated some land to the society. It wasn't usable for what ever reason so was sold, for the land that the hall is on now. I spend a lot of time helping with that hall. Sometimes I would be the only one there doing the, type of work, I did. I would take my two little boy to help me. The hall was a bit unusual it had a sloping floor to see the stage better. Ray Franz came to give the talk at the assemble hall dedication. A very boring talk.
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  Saturday Let the Games Begin

  by Poztate in

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  the start of a new memorial season is upon us.

  saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.

  the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.

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  They came by last yr. with an invitation. We were at the table eating, My wife said here come some witnesses don't answer the door. If you know me you'd know I can't do that. At the door they offered the invitation I said no because I didn't think what they were doing was right or scriptural I ask if they could show me a text where anyone was ever invited to go as an observer, there was no observers invited to the last supper and Paul never said to do that. Those invited where to partake. They said they had to go. I said if they do, don't come back. At the sidewalk they stopped to write down the house number and notes I walk out to where they were and ask why they didn't follow the organ. directions not to write down things in front the house. Its rude and people don't like it. So they left.
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  Gas Pump "Witnessing"....Is this a thing?

  by Bob Loblaw in

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  i've seen this twice now within a month.

  a car group hanging out at a gas station.

  one of the cult members jumps outs of their car and runs up to a "worldly" gas pumper, arm stretched out, tract in hand, and here comes the juvenile at best question.

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  Driving though Montana one year I saw Witnesses knocking on truck doors at a truckstop, it was about 7:oo in the morning and snowing.